Turkish border is now the focal point of an ideological clash which has turned into action. The clash is between those who want to push imperialist politics, and activists or migrants, who fight for the free movement of people. The Turkish situation is now more complex than ever and is worsening the situation for many people already in precarious situations, due to the recent EU-Turkey agreement that calls for the deportation of all people found in EU territory who haven’t requested asylum from the Greek authorities.


The No Border Camp has been organizing the demonstration at the Turkish border for weeks. Yesterday, we started from the university at around 10.30am to reach the border between Greece and Turkey, aiming to arrive in Evros. After travelling for approximately 6 hours, the caravan composed of approximately 300 people was stopped in the village of Kastanias, 1km from the Turkish border. From there, we started to march, singing and screaming slogans in various languages, demanding the borders be opened and the end of deportations. After a while, we found ourselves in front of a line of police blocking our path. The march clashed with this border imposed by the authorities.

Our action intended to have a symbolic meaning around an ideological platform. Every border that divides and hdistinguishes between populations cannot achieve anything other than to strengthen socioeconomic models, which have proved unsustainable for everyone other that those belonging to elistist authoritarian groups of so-called “first world” states. We believe that nobody can legitimately decide the will of another person, choose where they want to live, or decide on the conditions that “allow” or prevent a person to live where in the world they they choose. Laws increase the gaps between people where bridges should be built; in a less figurative sense, laws stigmatise and kill. For all these reasons, among others, the No Border Camp preplanned the goal of attacking the borders. All of the borders. Whether they are metal fences or psychological barriers, a line of cops or pieces of paper.

Against all authorities and all borders.


No Border Camp 2016 – Manifestation at Detention Centers


Wednesday (20 July)


More than 1,000 activists from the No Border Camp in Thessaloniki visited detention centres in Xanthi and Paranesti to show solidarity with people being held in detetion.

Nineteen buses left the camp in the morning and headed to the detention centre in Paranesti with a delegation of doctors, lawyers and international volunteers. There they marched in order to gain access to the centre. The Paranesti centre has a capacity of 620 people; according to the detainees, right now, there are between 300 and 400 people staying there, notably from Pakistan, Algeria and Morocco. Detention centres in Greece hold migrants who do not have the correct documents and people who are identified as economic migrants and not as political refugees. These people, because they are not classified as political refugees, are considered “illegal”.

These centres are called pre-removal detention cetnres. They were created in 2012 to deport people, but they are systemically used to keep asylum seekers locked up. Detention centres in Greece have maximum capacity of 6000-7000 people; they are in fact prisons where migrants are detained for months without knowing anything about their legal situation or how long their asylum process will take.

Thanks to the pressure of the solidairty march, an internationl delegation of doctors, lawyers and activists, managed to get into the centre where they were able to document the physical and psychological conditions suffered by the detainees.2

After visiting the centres, there is no doubt in our mind that Paranesti detention centre functions as a prison. Detainees are seperated according to ethnicity in rows of warehouses and surrounding the site they are closed in by high metal fencing andbarbed wire. Each detainee receives 5.80EUR fpocket money (the price of one meal is about 3EUR which 06 they must pay for themselves, so it is not even enough for two meals a day). There is internet access in the camp but cameras in mobile phones are confiscated.

The situation is tragic. The detention centre has the distinct feel of a concentration camp, conjuring up uncanny images of the past. One of the warehouses is used to house minors (under 18s). There are 13 boys between 15 and 18 years old, that have been stuck in the camp for months, alone, without family members, and with no access to information about their future. They are Pakistani and they are not considered to be refugees fleeing conflict or political persecution. However the situaiton in Pakistan is dangerous, as there are some less visible conflicts, which are not officially recognised internationally. It is scandalous that young men are put into detention, just because they are considered irregular immigrants. Note that these people have not commited a crime, as such, but have been accused of “illegally” entering the country.

We met a group of 6 Pakistani detainees, who are part of a religious minority (Ahmadiyya Muslim Community). They were persecuted in their country, and as such should legally be recognised as having political refugee status. Instead, they are detained in this centre without knowing what will happen to them and whether they will have to face their persecutors again.12


After that, the protest moved to the detention centre in Xanthi where prior to the solidarity march there has been rioting against the proposal to extend the period of detention. Xanthi detention centre has a capacity of 580 people. To show solidarity to the detainees and to respond to the violence commited DSC_0097against them by the authorities inside the camp (some detainees told us about episodes of beatings), some activists cut through the barbed wire around the periphery of the building. The situation escalated into a fight with the police, and more fences were cut, in order get closer to the centre and shout slogans and word of support through the loudspeaker, against the unfair and senseless situation in which migrants are confined.

Detainees responded to activists with enthusiasm, joining in the singing and shouting of slogans before getting pushed away from the windows of the building by the authorities.

The detention centres are an explicit violation of fundamental human rights. We believe in a world where there are no borders or resistriction on the free movement of people, a world in which there are no 1st and 2nd class citizens, just individuals whose diginity and survival must be protected and ensured.

“Our love for freedom is stronger than your prison”!

Stay human!


No Border Camp – Manifestation,Thessaloniki 21/07/2016








The 21th of July some thousands of people from all over the world with and without papers protested against borders and the procedure of deportation according to the EU-Turkey deal (March 2016) answering the call of No Border camp.

Besides the bigger demonstrations there DSC_0306were also decentral actions against the Suisse, Spanish and Philippine consulate as well as flag burnings and graffiti actions in the city. At the end of the day everybody returned singing in many languages and dancing to the No Border Camp.
The conditions in the relocation centers all over Greece are critical and in many cases inhuman. In Greece there are more than 57.000 refugees (official number) staying in over 40 camps. Half of them are around Thessaloniki. And the number is still increasing.

Many denounce the lack of legal and medical support and the insufficient sanitation. In many cases there isn’t even enough clothes and the food provided by the military is not good for children. The situation is so unbearable that some people would even prefer to return to Syria instead of staying in the relocation centers.
Besides the relocation centers there are many detention centers in Greece as well. These entirely closed and isolated camps were created 2012 in Greece as part of a system to systematically deport people with denied asylum applications.

DSC_0277There are about 6,000 – 7,000 people staying in these prison like camps for many months without any information about their legal status and not knowing what will happen to them or how long they will have to stay.




(Ελληνικά) Θεσσαλονίκη – Μεγάλη διαδήλωση ενάντια στα σύνορα και τους φράχτες

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First brief Impressions from Thessaloniki

In dozens of announced workshops and informal meetings activists from all over Europe and beyond started last weekend with fruitful exchange and a lot of discussions on practical projects and initiatives to struggle for freedom of movement. Groups from Skopje, Sofia, Belgrade, Budapest, Zagreb and Ljubljana but also from Izmir, Tunis, Zurich and Malmö, from various italian, austrian, german and of course greek cities came together in a two days Balkanroute Networking meeting. In a great transnational composition it was possible to evaluate the last months developments and to think and plan for future initiatives. Three examples: Selforganised refugee activists from Thessaloniki presented their new call center project from refugees to refugees, friends from Serbia and Hungary promoted together the campaign against the criminalization of the Röscke 11, the idea for a common alarm- and info-phone across the whole Balkan was drafted.
Since Friday night of course the attempt of a new military coup in Turkey was a big topic, the friends from Istanbul and Izmir were and still are confronted with an uncalculable Situation in which they have to return after the camp. Nevertheless they tried to share their estimations about an even stronger and more repressive Erdogan regime and it was possible to reflect the EU-Turkey Deal and to discuss steps of further resistance.
Transnational activities against Frontex and Dublin, the question of sustainable activism or the idea of an multilingual online platform for the collective memory of migrant struggles: a wide spectrum of experiences and proposals could be rediscussed also on Monday and Tuesday, while every day convois started to visit the isolated “relocation camps” with thousands of stucked refugees and migrants. All the time the printed version of the great trilingual noborder newspaper could be distributed and used to invite refugees to join. Many took the chance and came to the Noborder Camp at the university area to share their experiences, to raise their demands, to enjoy the cultural program and the common time to build more contacts all over Europe. Of course it is not easy to bridge the various realities and interests all the time and some conflicts came up to handle the responsibilities for all visiting refugees and mainly due to their limited opportunities in the prepared program to speak about their daily problems. But finally more workshops and assemblies of refugees could be established as well, improvisation and spontaneous self organisation anyway is the challenge in such a huge Noborder camp…
Also first direct actions took place in these first days, for example in front of a main TV station to get more public attention to the demands of the stucked refugees. More demonstrations and protests are planned for the next days, while about 1200 activists are on the campus in the meanwhile, after 5 buses with 270 people coming from the Spanish state arrived as well on Monday night in Thessaloniki.
And just now, Wednesday morning, we are starting with 20 big buses and additional vans and cars in a convoi to protest in front of two detention camps in northern Greece and to express our solidarity with the refugees and migrants against their planned deportation.

no one is illegal Hanau

Picture below: new great wall painting at the campus in Thessaloniki



Subject: Info about the protest in front of a detention center in Sofia, Bulgaria, held on 10.07.2016

Bulgaria, Sofia, 10th July 2016, Protest in front of detention centre in Busmantzi

On 10th July the 4th in general – but the only one in the last 6 years – protest in front of and against the detention center in Busmantzi, a village near Sofia, happened.

In diffrence with the last protest in solidarity with migrants in Sofia city centre, this one was targeted more to the people who are detained there and not as much to bulgarian society in general. This aim was actually successful, as many detained people inside showed up at the bared windows and waved banners demanding “Freedom now!”

The protesters were accepted very well and real communication was established – providing a phone number on which some of the detained people called, sharing their problems with food and medicine conditions, papers and detention in general. Several cases have been already solved.

The protesters shouted different slogans in solidarity with ALL migrants (without the hypocritical division between refugees and “illegal” immigrants), against Fortress Europe, against borders, nations, deportations, fences, police and racist gangs. We were shouting also “Freedom” in arabic and farsi, as well as „Solidarity with all people without papers” in french. Statements in bulgarian, english, french, arabic and farsi were read too. The participants in the protest were equipped with helium balloons and fireworks. Balloons with “Freedom”, written in different lanquages, were let in the air.

The general position of the participants in the protest, locals and internationals, was both against hypocritical racist EU policy but also against brutal police repression of Bulgarian state too. We didn’t face serious problems with police and even after the protest all of us went in front of police station in Sofia to demand immediate liberation of some of our comrades who’ve been arrested on the previous night without any charges. But this is part of another story which ended good as well…

The protest in front of Busmantzi detention center was also small part of the big number of other actions in many of the Balkan countries, from Slovenia through Serbia, which will culminate in the No Border camp in Thessaloniki this month. On the other hand it pointed toward the local situation in Bulgaria where not many actions happen and where migrants still continute to face brutal police repression and racist violence. We will never stop shouting “You are not alone!” and “Freedom now!”. This is not the policy of country that we can be proud with.

Not in our name! Solidarity with ALL migrants!

No nations, borders, deportations, fences, cops and dirty racists!



NoBorder 2016 concerts program



VIOME workers support NoBorder 2016 and organize an open event

Sunday July 17, 19:00

“Workers struggles and migrants: the case of VIOME occupied and self-maanaged factory.”



NoBorder 2016 disruptive film festival program

Disruptive Film Programs
(Sherry Millner/Ernie Larsen)

Note: Border Crossers will be repeated as the fourth program

Nearly Now/Almost Then: Collective films/Collective struggles
Saturday, July 16, 21:00

La Commune, Armand Guerra, Cinema of the People, 1914, excerpt.

Prayer of Fire, Mosireen Collective, 2010

Nouvelle Societe No. 6, Medvedkine Group, 1969

Abounaddara films, selection of short videos (2010-2015) including:

My School, After the Image, The Intellectual and His Militia, National Dialogue,

Solitary Cell

The Land Belongs to Those Who Work It, Chiapas Media Group, 2005

Year Zero Iranian Women’s Liberation Movement, Year Zero, Iranian Women &

Women of the Political & Psychoanalytical Group, Iran/France, 1979

Return to Work at the Wonder Factory, Jacques Willement, 1968

Xochimilco in 1914, Los Viumasters, 2010

Monday, July 18 and Saturday, July 23

Unforgetttable Memory, Lin Wei 2010

Suprematist Kapital, James T. Howe & Yin-Ju Chen, 2006

41 Shots, Millner & Larsen, 2000

N’Entre Pas Sans Violence Dans La Nuit

(Don’t Go Gentle Into the Night), Sylvain George, 2005

J’ai Huit Ans (I Am Eight Years Old), Paul Masson & Olga Poliakoff, 1961

Inventory, Zelimir Zilnik, 1975

Barbs and Razors, Millner & Larsen, 2016

A Plate of Sardines, Omer Amiralay, 1997

Tuesday, July 19

Predators in the Aviary, Millner & Larsen, 2011

Can Dialectics Break Bricks? , Rene Vienet, 1973


The Relocation Program: Opinions from three refugees

The Relocation Program: Opinions from three refugees

Everybody has to have a chance and not only the people who have war in their hometowns. I believe people should be able to go anywhere they want.”  – Laila, June 2016, Thessaloniki

The pre-registration process in Greece:

Since the beginning of June 2016 the European Asylum Service Office (EASO), the Greek Asylum Service and the UNHCR have started to pre-register migrants on the Greek mainland. During the pre-registration process the migrants have to officially state their choice between three legal options that are open to them at the moment: they can try to be relocated to another EU country through the relocation program, they can ask to be reunified with their family, if they have family members that already applied for asylum in another European country, or they can choose to apply for asylum in Greece.

At the moment it seems that through the pre-registration interviews at the Asylum Office, the Greek authorities are trying to get an overview of the around 50.000 migrants currently stuck in Greece, to figure out, who is in Greece, what they want and what is legally possible for them. This however also means that people who don’t fit into the European asylum programs are being discovered and therefore more likely to be detained or deported.

The relocation program: a viable option?

In the two interviews below, we are trying to collect more information on the relocation program, in order to gain a better understanding of how this process works. Since the closure of the Balkan corridor, the relocation program is one of the few possibilities for some refugees stuck in Greece to legally leave and be officially transferred to another EU member state. However, only nationalities with a European-wide asylum acceptance rate of over 75% are eligible for the program. This means that for most migrants, this is no option. Now, even Iraqis are no longer eligible for this program.

Run by the European Asylum Service Office (EASO) and the Greek Asylum Service, people have to register and be selected for the program. However, applicants cannot decide, which country they are relocated to. Instead, they depend on the decision of the member states and must accept to be relocated to the member state that is willing to accept them. If people refuse to go to the country selected for them, their only other legal option is to apply for asylum in Greece.

The whole process of the relocation program is an extremely slow and bureaucratic procedure. Before the pre-registration process, the only option to apply for the relocation program was via a Skype call. There, one often had to keep on trying for weeks before actually reaching someone. Whether it is more efficient with the pre-registration process still needs to be seen. Further, it is not transparent, who is selected for the program and on what basis. Even once selected for the program, the people have to go through several interviews and are then left to wait for weeks without any further information on their case.

Even though the process of the interview is similar at the pre-registration office as it was when people made their appointments over Skype, there are major differences concerning the asylum ID cards the migrants receive. While Laila and Mohamed got an asylum ID valid for 6 months, the asylum ID’s handed out to people after the ‘pre-registration’ process are valid for 12-months. However, people who applied for family reunification told us they only receive 6-month. People are also explicitly forbidden to work, if they are in the process of relocation.

Through the interviews and more conversations with other people, who had chosen the relocation program during the pre-registration process in the Asylum Office of Thessaloniki/Kalochori, it becomes clear that the relocation program might take a very long time for some people; even people, who have been registered several months ago still have not been relocated. It therefore seems likely that thousands of ‘pre-registered’ people will remain stuck in Greece.

The experiences with the relocation program of Laila, Mohamed and Sahar

Mohamed and Laila from Syria are some of the few people who were lucky to register at the Greek Asylum Service via Skype before the eviction of Idomeni and before the start of the pre-registration process. They registered in the beginning of May and had their first interview for relocation in the Asylum Office of Thessaloniki in June. We met them and interviewed them about the procedure and the questions asked in their relocation interview. It was announced to them, that they would receive a phone call from the Asylum Office for further procedure, but so far nobody called and they are still waiting in Greece.

The second interview was conducted with Sahar, also from Syria. She registered for the relocation program and was interviewed in Thessaloniki in March. The day before our interview with her, she was called by the embassy of France to possibly be relocated there. But she too, is still in Greece.

In the following Interviews the procedure the three people went through are explained in detail:

Interview with Laila and Mohamed:

Conducted in June one day after their official interview with the authorities, in the place where the two are currently staying in Thessaloniki.

Why did you decide to apply for relocation?

Laila: The borders are closed and the only thing we can do is to apply for relocation. Here in Greece there is nothing for us, no money no anything.

What do you expect from participating in the relocation program in general?

Mohamed: We don’t know. We wrote some countries we chose, but we are afraid they are not going to send us to one of the 5/6 countries we chose. If we are lucky we might go to France or some other country we want but if not we have to go to another country.

Laila: We want to go to a country where there is the possibility to have money. You know what I mean? I want to find a job and my sister as well.

Mohamed: And I want to continue my studies and then find a job as well.

When did you decide to participate in the program and how did the attempts to contact the relocation authorities by skype work out?

Laila: My sister decided to do relocation. That’s why I want to as well. We want to stay together. We started trying to skype with the authorities maybe one month ago.

Mohamed: I want to leave and be somewhere else, that’s why. I tried to skype with them for about 6 weeks.

How was the interview at the Asylum Office?

Laila: It was easy. They just asked some questions like for example how old are you, why did you come here, why did you leave Syria and about your religion, like if you are Muslim or something else.

Did they ask further questions?

Mohamed: Yes, about your name, your age, about your parents, religion, if we are married or not, and if somebody of us fought with Daesh or Nusra, that’s everything. Not so many questions.

Laila: They also asked when we left Syria, they wanted a date or something. Also if we want to return there or not and if yes or no why. Ah, and about your family, do you still have family in Syria? Do you give them money? Like for example me and my sister, we have no husbands but family in Syria and they don’t have money, and if you want to give them money or not?

What did you say?

Laila: I have a brother and my mom in Syria. They don’t have money so of course I want to help somehow.

Did they comment that somehow, do you know if they liked your answer or not?

Laila: Nothing, they just asked.

Mohamed: Maybe it is better to say if you have family. So for example, if you go to France and you get a residence, I can bring my family there as well. That’s why I said everything; I have my brother and my sister. I wanted to say it, because maybe then they can do something for them. I think it’s better.

What did you answer when they asked if you want to go back to Syria?

Mohamed: I said no.

Laila: Me and my sister too. Also not after the war. They asked why and I just said, I don’t want to go back again.

Mohamed: I don’t want to go back at all. Also before the war it was difficult, because of the religion.

Did they ask anything about health or something else?

Laila: Yes they asked about our health. If you have something, they want to know what the problem is, but I didn’t have anything.

Laila: They also asked about the family in Syria, like if they have any health problems, if you don’t have any problem.

Did they also ask you about your education and your language skills? If you speak other languages besides Arabic?

Mohamed: They asked if I am Kurdish or Arabic and after that they asked, which other languages we speak, like English or other languages.

Did they ask for your education or what kind of jobs you did before or if you studied something?

Laila: Yes, they asked me and I finished high school after the 12th grade and worked after.

Mohamed: Yes, they asked me the same question and I said that I didn’t finish my university and that I want to continue studying.

Did they ask you what kind of job you had?

Laila: Yes, they asked that and I told them.

Did they also ask you how long you have been working?

Laila: Yes, they asked me how long I have worked and I told them maybe 6 to 8 years.

Did they ask you if you are traveling with money?

Mohamed: No, they didn’t ask anything about money.

Laila: They asked if you have somebody, who sends you money and I said no. And they asked the same question, if I help my family or not with money. But I said, that I don’t have money to support them at the moment, but maybe after when I go to a country, where I can work.

Did they ask you for any papers, which prove your work, university or nationality?

Mohamed: Yes, they asked that, but I didn’t have papers. Only my passport. But they also asked for the papers of the army. They wanted to know, if I have done one or two years of military service, and if I have a paper, which proves that. But I didn’t have that; only my passport, which they kept.

Who was with you in the room during the interview?

Laila: In the beginning, I was in the room with a Greek woman. She asked the questions; the translator was not in the room, but on a Skype video. This was the first room. Later there was another interview in a different room. In this room a translator was also in the room and a Greek person to ask questions. But in both rooms the same questions were asked, just by different persons and in different rooms. In the first room the questions were on a paper. In the second room, they ask the same questions but in a different order than before. And I gave the same answers as before. When I left the room, they told me I have 95%. To my sister they said the same. That was good I think.

Mohamed: They didn’t do that with me, I was alone.

Laila: I think when you are lying, then they find out like that.

Did you have the interview alone or together with your sister?

Laila: I was alone, and after me, my sister went in there alone as well, and then we did that again with the other room. They are smart.

Did they tell you how the process will continue after the interview? What will happen next?

Mohamed: You have to wait at least 8 weeks, then someday they will call you.

Who is calling?

Mohamed: The asylum service and they tell you, if you should go to Athens.

Did they tell you how high chances are to be accepted in the relocation program?

Mohamed: You tell them around 8 countries. When these 8 countries all say no, we don’t want this family or this person, then you have to stay here in Greece. Maybe it will not work for us and we have to stay. I asked the woman at the asylum about that and she told me that.

Laila: They told me that I can choose between 8 countries, but I only chose 5 and then I asked, if it will work out. And they said, if none of the countries accept me, I will have to stay in Greece and ask for asylum here. Then we can’t call the relocation program again.

Also I heard from a friend, that she didn’t put France on the list, but now she is getting sent to France. So maybe we will even get another country not from the list. So only when all say no, we have to stay in Greece.

What do you think you will do in the next years?

Mohamed: I will maybe study and work.

Laila: Me too, maybe study and work

Did they say something about that in the interview?

Laila: They asked me, if I want to stay together with my sister or not. They asked my sister that too.

And if you want to go to one country, but your sister not, you can put that on your list. But we said no, we want to stay together. My sister wrote down 5 countries and I want to stay with her.

Mohamed: They also asked me, if I am afraid of some countries or if I don’t want to go to some countries. If I would have said yes, they would have asked me why I am afraid and why I don’t want to go there.

What did you answer?

Laila: We said, we don’t have any problem. They also asked us, how the way from Syria to Turkey was, but I forgot what I answered them. The question was somehow, if I came from Syria to Turkey illegal or legal.

What do you think in general about the relocation program?

Laila: I don’t have an opinion until now.

Mohamed: I think it is better than staying here. It is a chance. But it’s not working good at all. 6 weeks we have to wait and then maybe we receive a no. Again we are waiting and waiting.

What do you think about the fact, that you can’t influence where you get sent to?

Laila: It is horrible, if you have to wait for 8 weeks and you don’t know what will happen to you. Sometimes you can’t sleep.

What do you think about the fact that only a few nationalities are allowed to participate? So for example people from Marocco and Afghanistan are excluded and mainly Syrian and Iraqi citizens can participate.

Laila: Maybe it would be good, if all people can participate, not only people from Syria and Iraq. Everybody has to have a chance and not only the people, who have war in their hometowns. I believe people should be able to go anywhere they want.


Interview with Sahar:

Conducted in June one day after she was called by the embassy of an EU member state. The interview took place in the house she was staying in in Thessaloniki.

For how long did you wait for the phone call?

Sahar: We had to wait for over 6 weeks. They told us when we registered, it takes about 5 weeks. But it took 6 weeks. But there is a problem, because we are a private case.

What do you mean by “private case”?

Sahar: Our case is private, because our mother is sick and they promised to help us. We registered for 5 countries, but they chose another country, which we didn’t choose. I don’t know why.

Which country did you choose?

Sahar: I chose Germany, because my brother, my fiancée, my relatives and all my family are in Germany. And we gave them their number and evidence, which proves that those relatives are in Germany. And I told my relatives that the relocation authorities will call them to check my story, but they didn’t call anybody. I also chose Sweden, Luxembourg, Finland and Norway.

Which member state called you?

Sahar: Yesterday, they called me from the French refugee office consulate, the interview is with them. I told them, I don’t need to go to France and that I didn’t register for France, and asked why our paper is in their office. The person on the phone told me that the Greek government brought our papers to them.

What did the French embassy tell you?

Sahar: They said: You have an appointment on Thursday xx this month. You have to come with your mother, your sister, your daughter and bring all your papers with you. Your appointment, your interview will be at 10 o’clock in the morning and your sister’s at 2 o’clock.,Then we will have to wait 3 weeks for a yes or no. If we receive a yes, then they will take us to a hotel and everything, they will take care of it. I don’t know why.

So you will go to Athens to the consulate. Where are you going to stay?

Sahar: I didn’t find any place. I called Praxis, but they refused. They said, I have to go to the UN office and bring papers to them, then we can find a place for you. No organization helps. They say it’s full, it’s full. In this program, a house must exist for us. Because we registered for this program. The officer of this french consulate said: No, the ticket and house is on you, not on us. When we accept you, when you get an okay from France after 3 weeks, we will take you to a hotel and everything will be on our cost.

This is a big problem now.

Have you heard about your friends, how was their experience?

Sahar: I asked around and the problem is that France doesn’t take many people. Nobody has any news about France. Or how they receive Syrian refugees. But for example on Holland, a friend of mine called me today and said that he went to the interview, and after he finished the interview they took him to a hotel. A friend of mine called somebody, who was accepted to France. He said that when you go to the interview, they don’t bring you to a hotel. So now I have a problem. I have to find a place in Athens. Tomorrow we will go to Athens. We will reach Athens Monday morning. Our interview is on Thursday. Monday to Thursday, that’s 3 days. Where can I/we sleep?

For Syrian refugees it is difficult to find money to go and come back to another city and to stay in a hotel, it is a very difficult situation, nobody helps. You know the situation of refugees.

Do you know something about France?

Sahar: No no, I don’t have any information. I just read a little in the internet. They told me, all the Europe countries are the same when it comes to refugees. You have right to get nationality after 10 years, you have health care for life and they have to offer us a house and to give us money until we learn the language. But I don’t know anybody who went to France before. I prefer Germany.

Will you go or will you exit the program?

Sahar: The Problem is that I yelled at him. My lawyer says, when you refuse to go, you have to ask for asylum here in Greece. Greece is a very very bad country for people, because they are poor, there is no work here. Living in Greece is very hard. I have to go to France now, I don’t want to stay here. But in the future, later I will find a way to go to Germany.